1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,320 [Music] 2 00:00:13,549 --> 00:00:09,190 [Applause] 3 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:13,559 all right still worth in progress so now 4 00:00:23,300 --> 00:00:21,330 we're at perform DNA repair alright so 5 00:00:27,140 --> 00:00:23,310 here I'm showing you our most everybody 6 00:00:28,310 --> 00:00:27,150 hear me in the back yes okay so here I 7 00:00:31,189 --> 00:00:28,320 am showing you our most current 8 00:00:34,310 --> 00:00:31,199 understanding of the phylogenetic tree 9 00:00:36,439 --> 00:00:34,320 of life with bacteria Eukarya archaea 10 00:00:37,790 --> 00:00:36,449 and I hope I'm not insulting anyone's 11 00:00:40,310 --> 00:00:37,800 intelligence here by just sort of 12 00:00:42,170 --> 00:00:40,320 reminding you how to read a phylogenetic 13 00:00:44,450 --> 00:00:42,180 tree because I will show you another one 14 00:00:46,549 --> 00:00:44,460 in the course of this talk and so you 15 00:00:49,820 --> 00:00:46,559 know the nodes and the phylogenetic tree 16 00:00:51,259 --> 00:00:49,830 places where it branches connect you 17 00:00:53,390 --> 00:00:51,269 know we consider those and burn or 18 00:00:57,969 --> 00:00:53,400 hypothesize ancestors and we can say 19 00:01:00,619 --> 00:00:57,979 that a group is monophyletic if it 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:00,629 shares a unique common ancestor unto 21 00:01:03,950 --> 00:01:01,290 itself 22 00:01:05,780 --> 00:01:03,960 exclusive not including other groups so 23 00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:05,790 here are bacteria forming a monophyletic 24 00:01:09,710 --> 00:01:08,369 group now the inferred ancestor that I 25 00:01:10,940 --> 00:01:09,720 want to talk to you about today and some 26 00:01:12,230 --> 00:01:10,950 people have already brought this up in 27 00:01:14,029 --> 00:01:12,240 their talks I want to talk to you about 28 00:01:15,950 --> 00:01:14,039 the Luca the last Universal common 29 00:01:18,889 --> 00:01:15,960 ancestor of all living on earth and 30 00:01:21,980 --> 00:01:18,899 lived on their Creed's for billion years 31 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:21,990 ago and this food probably doesn't need 32 00:01:25,290 --> 00:01:22,510 it 33 00:01:28,890 --> 00:01:25,300 put that into a pictographic perspective 34 00:01:31,110 --> 00:01:28,900 if we read this picture from from left 35 00:01:33,210 --> 00:01:31,120 to right we see early Earth on the Left 36 00:01:34,830 --> 00:01:33,220 and modern times including astronomers 37 00:01:38,130 --> 00:01:34,840 people like some of you in this room on 38 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:38,140 the on the right then of course I'm 39 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:44,580 okay yes and of course I'm talking about 40 00:01:48,450 --> 00:01:46,450 a time period writing here now I 41 00:01:51,180 --> 00:01:48,460 personally believe you know this is the 42 00:01:55,250 --> 00:01:51,190 the topic of this particular symposium 43 00:01:57,180 --> 00:01:55,260 is you know the Dark Ages and I have I 44 00:01:58,950 --> 00:01:57,190 believe that the look at has great 45 00:02:01,170 --> 00:01:58,960 capacity to teach us about modern 46 00:02:02,670 --> 00:02:01,180 biodiversity and also some capacity to 47 00:02:04,230 --> 00:02:02,680 help us look back further in time 48 00:02:08,010 --> 00:02:04,240 probably not something I need to 49 00:02:11,700 --> 00:02:08,020 convince folks up in this room and so 50 00:02:13,740 --> 00:02:11,710 one way we can understand what we can 51 00:02:17,610 --> 00:02:13,750 understand will Luca is by studying its 52 00:02:18,810 --> 00:02:17,620 genome its genome content and that helps 53 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:18,820 us to understand what its metabolic 54 00:02:22,620 --> 00:02:21,070 capabilities were what its structures 55 00:02:24,660 --> 00:02:22,630 we're live in there been many studies on 56 00:02:26,670 --> 00:02:24,670 the Luca Gina and I'm showing you some 57 00:02:28,620 --> 00:02:26,680 of those here and the team's inferred to 58 00:02:30,930 --> 00:02:28,630 be present in the Luca based on these 59 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:30,940 studies have been aggregated into a 60 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:38,080 database called leukopenia yes so one of 61 00:02:42,330 --> 00:02:39,970 the things that fascinates me is trying 62 00:02:44,220 --> 00:02:42,340 to understand how did the Luca conduct 63 00:02:47,570 --> 00:02:44,230 its DNA processes have a palooka 64 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:47,580 interact with its own DNA tina and so 65 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:49,680 these studies of the leuco we know quite 66 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:52,110 a bit about its ability to do DNA 67 00:02:55,940 --> 00:02:53,730 transcription or at least a little bit 68 00:02:59,030 --> 00:02:55,950 about ability to do DNA transcription 69 00:03:00,770 --> 00:02:59,040 depending on who you ask if it's ability 70 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:00,780 to do DNA replication then let's 71 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:02,610 remember that DNA replication is not 72 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:04,410 just the ability of an organism to make 73 00:03:09,860 --> 00:03:07,710 more DNA DNA replication requires quite 74 00:03:11,810 --> 00:03:09,870 a lot of fidelity in terms of making 75 00:03:13,580 --> 00:03:11,820 that copy and so there's a lot of 76 00:03:16,940 --> 00:03:13,590 excision and repair that goes on during 77 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:16,950 that process so it's no surprise that 78 00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:19,170 you know at least some of the genes that 79 00:03:22,660 --> 00:03:20,910 we have heard to be present in the Luca 80 00:03:25,580 --> 00:03:22,670 genome were involved in DNA replication 81 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:25,590 and specifically in excision and 82 00:03:31,250 --> 00:03:28,770 repaired during DNA during DNA 83 00:03:33,350 --> 00:03:31,260 replication and so you know I became 84 00:03:35,390 --> 00:03:33,360 very interested more broadly in DNA 85 00:03:38,180 --> 00:03:35,400 repair enzymes that might have been 86 00:03:41,030 --> 00:03:38,190 present in the luca and so using 87 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:41,040 Wikipedia and studies in leukopenia that 88 00:03:48,890 --> 00:03:45,510 predicted or rather you think leukopenia 89 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:48,900 and looking at genes that were predicted 90 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:51,810 to be present by at least four studies 91 00:03:56,509 --> 00:03:54,090 within leukopenia and considering the 92 00:03:58,460 --> 00:03:56,519 function of these gene families 93 00:04:02,210 --> 00:03:58,470 predicted to be present in my four 94 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:02,220 studies using a gene ontology resource I 95 00:04:07,310 --> 00:04:04,170 asked them you know how many of these 96 00:04:11,780 --> 00:04:07,320 these genes you know we're involved in 97 00:04:13,670 --> 00:04:11,790 in DNA repair and out of 981 genes 98 00:04:15,130 --> 00:04:13,680 predicted presence in the Luca by at 99 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:15,140 least four studies we 100 00:04:25,180 --> 00:04:20,000 at 14 of those gene families were 101 00:04:27,460 --> 00:04:25,190 probably involved in DNA repair and so 102 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:27,470 what were they do it well you know some 103 00:04:31,630 --> 00:04:29,780 again were involved in DNA replication 104 00:04:34,750 --> 00:04:31,640 but some are probably acting outside of 105 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:34,760 that DNA replication system some 106 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:37,450 operating in meiosis and doing various 107 00:04:47,409 --> 00:04:43,460 excision repair so we decided to look in 108 00:04:50,110 --> 00:04:47,419 depth at a protein family called MGMT 109 00:04:52,210 --> 00:04:50,120 that's ubiquitous across the Tree of 110 00:04:54,460 --> 00:04:52,220 Life and therefore we assumed probably 111 00:04:57,460 --> 00:04:54,470 present in the Luca so here I'm showing 112 00:05:01,930 --> 00:04:57,470 you a representative in GMT protein now 113 00:05:05,190 --> 00:05:01,940 in e.coli MGMT has three parallels and 114 00:05:08,020 --> 00:05:05,200 they are og ta da and ato 115 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:08,030 the og T and a da paralogs 116 00:05:14,409 --> 00:05:11,090 are pretty similar to one another they 117 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:14,419 have an in terminal domain that does D 118 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:16,370 alkylation of DNA phosphate so 119 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:18,560 essentially removing methyl groups from 120 00:05:23,620 --> 00:05:20,720 DNA phosphates a form of DNA damage 121 00:05:25,719 --> 00:05:23,630 repairing that and a c-terminal domain 122 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:25,729 so these are by functional a c-terminal 123 00:05:34,659 --> 00:05:28,850 domain that D methylates or de-escalates 124 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:34,669 oh six wonnie or of work finding OG 125 00:05:39,909 --> 00:05:37,370 ta-daa act as monomers that is they 126 00:05:41,770 --> 00:05:39,919 don't recruit other proteins to be part 127 00:05:43,820 --> 00:05:41,780 of a complex to do these DNA repairs 128 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:43,830 they act on their bow and 129 00:05:48,230 --> 00:05:46,230 they're sudo enzymes why I like sudo 130 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:48,240 enzymes well after they do their job 131 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:49,860 they D methylate or de-escalate 132 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:53,850 something they're defunct and now they 133 00:06:00,410 --> 00:05:57,770 differ in terms of OTT is Institute 134 00:06:03,770 --> 00:06:00,420 constituents if we produce so it's 135 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:03,780 always on where a DA is auto induced and 136 00:06:09,770 --> 00:06:05,490 in fact it becomes its own transcription 137 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:09,780 factor now ATM is a little bit different 138 00:06:14,510 --> 00:06:12,090 it lacks this in terminal domain 139 00:06:16,430 --> 00:06:14,520 function and it has the c-terminal 140 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:16,440 domain function it is able to bind DNA 141 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:18,690 but it doesn't actually do demethylation 142 00:06:25,130 --> 00:06:22,050 or duty appellation instead it recruits 143 00:06:27,290 --> 00:06:25,140 other DNA repair enzymes that are not 144 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:27,300 part of this protein family so if I'm 145 00:06:31,580 --> 00:06:29,190 related to this protein family to 146 00:06:34,580 --> 00:06:31,590 actually do the DNA repair and this new 147 00:06:36,410 --> 00:06:34,590 believe is at root in time meaning it 148 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:36,420 can be reused and in terms of its 149 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:37,890 production we don't know if it's always 150 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:43,890 on or if it's an induced so why do we 151 00:06:49,070 --> 00:06:46,650 care so much about the alkylation or 152 00:06:50,390 --> 00:06:49,080 demethylation the evolution of DNA and 153 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:50,400 one might early 154 00:06:59,230 --> 00:06:54,080 healthcare so 155 00:07:01,089 --> 00:06:59,240 thinking in terms of MGMT so remembering 156 00:07:03,790 --> 00:07:01,099 that it is going to one of its functions 157 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:03,800 is to deep methylated des played a 158 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:06,370 thymine or a guanine 159 00:07:12,850 --> 00:07:09,289 so these spaces become methylated or a 160 00:07:13,930 --> 00:07:12,860 belated and in fact that causes oh they 161 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:13,940 were supposed to be a little animation 162 00:07:18,430 --> 00:07:16,400 there I apologize for its absence but in 163 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:18,440 fact what that causes is mismatched 164 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:20,930 pairing so T normally binds with a 165 00:07:24,610 --> 00:07:22,970 that's not news to anybody here but in 166 00:07:27,309 --> 00:07:24,620 fact when this is methylated it bonds 167 00:07:29,260 --> 00:07:27,319 with G similarly when G is methylated it 168 00:07:31,450 --> 00:07:29,270 bonds with T and these point mutations 169 00:07:33,999 --> 00:07:31,460 in DNA caused by this methylation in RF 170 00:07:37,450 --> 00:07:34,009 elation can lead to this can be computed 171 00:07:41,110 --> 00:07:37,460 through DNA replication or through 172 00:07:42,999 --> 00:07:41,120 transcription so what are the sources of 173 00:07:45,670 --> 00:07:43,009 the methyl group the methyl groups that 174 00:07:48,159 --> 00:07:45,680 cause damage to DNA well they can be 175 00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:48,169 endogenous or exogenous most most often 176 00:07:52,690 --> 00:07:50,240 in modern life their exogenous sources 177 00:07:55,540 --> 00:07:52,700 coming from the environment 178 00:07:58,060 --> 00:07:55,550 endogenous sources can include this demo 179 00:07:59,710 --> 00:07:58,070 online and so those of you that are 180 00:08:01,150 --> 00:07:59,720 familiar with this molecule know that we 181 00:08:02,530 --> 00:08:01,160 really need it it's a really important 182 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:02,540 molecule and it does a lot of good work 183 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:06,080 in the body however it turns out that 184 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:07,970 this can in fact randomly methylate 185 00:08:11,890 --> 00:08:09,890 parts of the DNA transfer a methyl group 186 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:11,900 to parts of the DNA but we don't want it 187 00:08:15,990 --> 00:08:12,650 to do that too 188 00:08:23,260 --> 00:08:16,000 and so actually causing damage and so 189 00:08:26,050 --> 00:08:23,270 one possibility is that as there was 190 00:08:28,030 --> 00:08:26,060 more methane present in the early 191 00:08:30,970 --> 00:08:28,040 atmosphere so here showing you early 192 00:08:33,550 --> 00:08:30,980 atmosphere of Earth more methane present 193 00:08:35,770 --> 00:08:33,560 and possibly membranes of early 194 00:08:38,380 --> 00:08:35,780 organisms were a bit leaky we know that 195 00:08:40,300 --> 00:08:38,390 this is a very old molecule predating 196 00:08:41,890 --> 00:08:40,310 the Luca so it's possible that there was 197 00:08:44,500 --> 00:08:41,900 more of this floating around at living 198 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:44,510 systems anyway methylating DNA of course 199 00:08:50,500 --> 00:08:47,570 it's also possible that there were other 200 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:50,510 sources for more fur methylation as well 201 00:08:54,250 --> 00:08:52,490 and again you know these are repair 202 00:08:55,510 --> 00:08:54,260 enzymes that we need in our systems and 203 00:09:00,660 --> 00:08:55,520 of course we're not exposed to this 204 00:09:02,750 --> 00:09:00,670 level of methane all right 205 00:09:06,420 --> 00:09:02,760 so anyway to convince ourselves that 206 00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:06,430 this in GMT protein family was president 207 00:09:11,100 --> 00:09:08,560 in the last Universal common ancestor we 208 00:09:13,230 --> 00:09:11,110 reconstructed a phylogeny using sampling 209 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:13,240 from across the Tree of Life and rather 210 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:15,570 from across the prokaryotic tree of life 211 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:17,290 eukaryotes probably would not have 212 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:18,490 contributed very much to our 213 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:19,990 understanding here I'm sorry to say 214 00:09:25,260 --> 00:09:22,330 because I studied eukaryote before this 215 00:09:28,170 --> 00:09:25,270 and so um nevertheless 216 00:09:28,740 --> 00:09:28,180 uh we using all three of the the 217 00:09:31,950 --> 00:09:28,750 parralox 218 00:09:37,140 --> 00:09:31,960 OG t AP a and a TL and so what we 219 00:09:39,330 --> 00:09:37,150 determined is that in fact this protein 220 00:09:41,010 --> 00:09:39,340 family of G of T was present in the last 221 00:09:44,210 --> 00:09:41,020 Universal common ancestor this node here 222 00:09:50,130 --> 00:09:44,220 representing the Luca and following the 223 00:09:51,750 --> 00:09:50,140 it diversified into an RKO and bacterial 224 00:09:52,980 --> 00:09:51,760 lineage following the species Tree of 225 00:09:55,980 --> 00:09:52,990 Life are consistent with the species 226 00:09:59,280 --> 00:09:55,990 Tree of Life and it turns out that the 227 00:10:00,750 --> 00:09:59,290 og t-type enzyme was probably ancestral 228 00:10:02,550 --> 00:10:00,760 here so remember that's the one that's 229 00:10:06,930 --> 00:10:02,560 constitutively produced and by 230 00:10:09,300 --> 00:10:06,940 functional so then we have the origin of 231 00:10:10,950 --> 00:10:09,310 ABA so again that one zips operate since 232 00:10:14,370 --> 00:10:10,960 its own transcription factor arrives 233 00:10:16,740 --> 00:10:14,380 later within the bacterial lineage and a 234 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:16,750 TL which again is recruiting other 235 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:19,630 proteins from other prepare protein or 236 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:23,530 rather of DNA to prepare families arise 237 00:10:28,069 --> 00:10:25,110 here later 238 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:28,079 I should point out that this is 239 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:30,450 primarily this ATL is primarily found in 240 00:10:37,430 --> 00:10:32,310 bacteria so probably arising due to our 241 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:37,440 horizontal gene transfer from archaea so 242 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:40,050 what do these things look like well so 243 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:41,850 these images that I'm showing you here 244 00:10:43,790 --> 00:10:43,050 and I'll start these movies up here in 245 00:10:47,050 --> 00:10:43,800 just a second 246 00:10:49,130 --> 00:10:47,060 these are the MGMT paralogs 247 00:10:51,829 --> 00:10:49,140 based on crystalline structure as shown 248 00:10:54,470 --> 00:10:51,839 here from a cola and you can see I'm 249 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:54,480 showing you here in light colors these 250 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:56,370 are the in terminal domains that are 251 00:11:02,300 --> 00:10:58,050 doing the demethylation 252 00:11:05,620 --> 00:11:02,310 of data the phosphate in DNA and these 253 00:11:07,970 --> 00:11:05,630 darker colors here these are the 254 00:11:10,269 --> 00:11:07,980 c-terminal domains that our response 255 00:11:13,940 --> 00:11:10,279 will afford d methylating or deflating 256 00:11:17,780 --> 00:11:15,790 [Music] 257 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:17,790 started for you so you can see the 258 00:11:22,370 --> 00:11:19,920 structure and to point out here in this 259 00:11:24,380 --> 00:11:22,380 ATL at the end of our set we see only 260 00:11:27,470 --> 00:11:24,390 this dark colored structure this is the 261 00:11:29,930 --> 00:11:27,480 homologous would be the c-terminal 262 00:11:36,620 --> 00:11:29,940 domain over here so only you know that 263 00:11:41,329 --> 00:11:36,630 function that the bonds DNA and recruits 264 00:11:42,950 --> 00:11:41,339 other enzymes to to make repairs the 265 00:11:46,970 --> 00:11:42,960 Humvee 266 00:11:46,980 --> 00:11:49,940 Wow 267 00:11:55,250 --> 00:11:52,160 there we go all right so how does the 268 00:11:57,079 --> 00:11:55,260 luca compare so we did some sequence 269 00:11:59,480 --> 00:11:57,089 reconstruction here ancestral sequence 270 00:12:01,280 --> 00:11:59,490 reconstruction as well as 3d modeling 271 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:01,290 and so here's what we get and what you 272 00:12:07,420 --> 00:12:04,560 can see is that there is the darker 273 00:12:09,829 --> 00:12:07,430 color the darker orange here represents 274 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:09,839 homologous with the c-terminal domain 275 00:12:15,079 --> 00:12:13,170 that is presumably performing our care 276 00:12:17,090 --> 00:12:15,089 by removing it ethyl group or a methyl 277 00:12:20,930 --> 00:12:17,100 group from wanting and fighting and then 278 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:20,940 we have kind of a simple interval in 279 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:22,529 terminal domain here so it's not quite 280 00:12:27,290 --> 00:12:24,510 as complexes what's going over on over 281 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:27,300 here at OG tier 88 is lacking these beta 282 00:12:33,530 --> 00:12:29,310 sheets but still possibly some 283 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:33,540 functionality here in the the in 284 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:37,889 terminal domain alright so where are we 285 00:12:42,650 --> 00:12:40,320 well we came into the study knowing that 286 00:12:44,660 --> 00:12:42,660 Luca possessed enzymes acted on DNA so 287 00:12:47,269 --> 00:12:44,670 it's interacting with its own DNA genome 288 00:12:49,730 --> 00:12:47,279 and we know that these enzymes included 289 00:12:52,699 --> 00:12:49,740 enzymes for DNA repair especially within 290 00:12:56,090 --> 00:12:52,709 replication so we found was that there 291 00:12:57,829 --> 00:12:56,100 are potentially more DNA enzymes present 292 00:12:59,150 --> 00:12:57,839 in the Luca that we realized and not all 293 00:13:03,310 --> 00:12:59,160 of those are acting within the DNA 294 00:13:06,439 --> 00:13:03,320 repair system most likely such as MGMT 295 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:06,449 in G and T in the Luca appears to have 296 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:10,890 functions similar to og ta da so you 297 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:12,690 know having both an n-terminal and a 298 00:13:18,949 --> 00:13:14,850 c-terminal domain possibly again dual 299 00:13:22,069 --> 00:13:18,959 functional like modern MGMT and the MGMT 300 00:13:24,380 --> 00:13:22,079 protein we saw later or present in the 301 00:13:26,090 --> 00:13:24,390 luca later diversified in both archaea 302 00:13:27,790 --> 00:13:26,100 and bacteria to produce some additional 303 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:27,800 functionality 304 00:13:33,050 --> 00:13:30,690 so I would go on to speculate that these 305 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:33,060 relics at least relatively simple DNA 306 00:13:36,890 --> 00:13:35,310 repair was probably possible and pre 307 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:36,900 with the organisms so something that 308 00:13:40,420 --> 00:13:38,610 maybe so if you who are studying such 309 00:13:43,010 --> 00:13:40,430 organisms should be on the lookout for 310 00:13:49,070 --> 00:13:43,020 and that's all I have to say about this 311 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:57,340 so we have time for one short question 312 00:14:03,110 --> 00:14:00,829 very illuminating have I was interested 313 00:14:05,180 --> 00:14:03,120 in the final hypotheses and one of the 314 00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:05,190 things in the null hypotheses in your 315 00:14:10,250 --> 00:14:07,680 final statement would be that in order 316 00:14:13,970 --> 00:14:10,260 to get Luca or a tall order to get the 317 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:13,980 last common Universal ancestor or the 318 00:14:18,710 --> 00:14:16,050 unity of biochemistry he might have had 319 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:18,720 a polymerases that made a lot of 320 00:14:23,180 --> 00:14:20,910 mistakes very similar to what you 321 00:14:25,610 --> 00:14:23,190 actually have in let's say viral DNA 322 00:14:28,850 --> 00:14:25,620 because that that would allow you more 323 00:14:31,490 --> 00:14:28,860 options to arrive finally at the final 324 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:31,500 unity of biochemistry so it's just a